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Final Opinion On Inherent Goodness .

Now that I have finished the novel I still believe that people are neither inherently good or inherently bad . It all comes with influence . And I'm sticking to that opinion .

Some of the boys in the novel were good because they young . They hadn't been influenced by anyone yet . They hadn't lived long enough . Jack and Roger weren't destined to be evil . The saying , "Everything happens for a reason ," comes into play here . They became evil because they landed on the island . They were snobby before , but not completely evil . They were mean and eventually , I think , it would have gotten worse with age .

I believe Piggy was meant to be good . I think his asthma comes into play . He can't really do anything because of his asthma . In the book he's always talking about his aunt so I think that he really cares about his family and he wouldn't do anything to make them mad at him .

I believe I am half and half because of influence . I'm half good because of my best friends and my family . They're the reason why I do good in school and I don't get in trouble all the time . I'm half bad because of my friends that I hang around . I like to hang around some trouble makers that I call my friends because they're not scared to do anything . They don't care what people think either . So I have enough good in me not to be fully bad .

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I think that there is no such thing as inherent goodness. You evolve as a person. People change into beings that they were not originally. It is a natural occurrence. Since I do not believe in inherent goodness, I do not think the boys from the novel were inherently good. Many of the boys changed from civilized individuals into savage hunters. They were not inherently good. Only a few of them on the island continued to maintain some of their sanity. It was a challenge that they struggled with throughout the novel. I believe that Jack was meant to be evil, but maybe not Roger. Jack seemed to always be very power hungry, which will normally get to people. It seems that no matter where he was, he would have ended up turning into what he became on the island. However, Roger does not strike me as that. It seems that he evolove into the murderer that he was in the novel. I do think that it was his environment that caused him to make that change. Piggy is a true rule follower. He was always meant to be good, in my eyes. He didn't do things that he thought he shouldn't. He also tryed to get others to do the same. He is one of the few exceptions to staying good. I am definitely not an example of inherent goodness. I have changed my personality a couple of times in my life based on personal experience. There have been time when I was the nicest person to everyone, and were times in my life when I did not get along with anyone. The phrase "inherent goodness" to me is an inaccurate term. It is not presented in most people. It is an ideal image of humans.

Goood

I still to this day beleive that people are born with a bad heart. Im not saying everybody is born to kill but everyone is born with a bad heart. But once you learn the meaning of right and wrong you change. You can change for the good or for the bad. The boys in the novel were born with bad hearts but not born as killers. There is huge difference. Lots of people change for the good and turn their heart good and start to do good. But some people unfortunately stay bad and do bad things. Jack and Roger were not born to be evil. But through the situations they were put and the roles they took on, they formed a mean heart and started to do bad things. I highly doubt they were evil their whole life. But they turned out bad. Everyone has a choice and they made the wrong one. I also beleive Piggy has bad thoughts like everyone else. Piggy is a great person and corrects those thoughts with good actions. Im not saying he was born to be good but he has been good through out his life. Through good decisions. I think everyone is born bad but not evil. Its your own choice wheather you stay that way. You arent forced to do stupid things no matter what your doing. I was born bad like everyone else but i have made good decisions and tryed my best to do good. This was a great novel. And provided many good topics to discuss.

Goodness

Are People Inherently good? Well Lets see it depends on who it is and around what thing they are raised in. Everyone is born good no one can be bad because they dont know what bad things are. The things that make them bad may be the way they are raised and the enviroment that they are rasied. People influence them to change so thats how people are introduced to the bad side of the world. Also by the people who they are around because they get influenced too. Another thing is that people turn bad because other people do it and they thing its cool and if you dont do it your a whimp. Thats what some of them take it as. SO people dont want to be called whimps so they do. I think that if it wasnt for the plane crash roger and Jack would be good students because they went to a nun school. Well it doesnt mean that everyone who goes to a church school is good but the majority is. They where never meant to be bad, but the fact that there is no teachers or parents stops it from not happening. Nobody could tell them what not to do so they would never learn from their mistakes. THey got over obessed with hunting and they were not just doing it for the meat they where doing it for fun. So they wanted to settle everything with killing. so later in their ;lives they will settle evrything with killing. Piggy was always to meant to be good because just by the way he is. Because everyone picks on him but he dont care he just ignores it his most likly the one to succed in life

inherently good

I think that nobody is born to be good. Not everybody is inherently good either. The only people that are inherently good are people that have parents that care and teach them to be good. For example Oprah was not born good. She just cared about her life and turned into a good person. I do not think that the boys in the novel were inherently good. I think this because nobody is inherently good. I think that Ralph and piggy where good people but not born to be good. If it was not for Jack and his obssession for hunting then nobody would have been killed. I do not think that piggy was ment to be good either. I think that Piggy just cared about what he did and understood the consequences of the outcome. So nobody is meant to be good. I do not think that I am inherently good either. Again, nobody is inherently good. I think that if people care about what they turn out to be later in thier life then they will be a good person. I do care about what I turn out to be later on in my life. So I think that I will turn out to be a somewhat good person. But nobody is going to be born into a good person. I do not think that Roger and Jack was destined to be evil. I think that the lust for killing was overwhelming to them. They were not always meant to be evil. Nobody is born into being evil or good. I think that there is no such thing as inherent goodness. Just people who care and make the right choices decide whether or not they will be a good person or not. So in the end it is you who makes the choice whethere or not to be good of bad.

Inherent Goodness Final.

Again, people are not inherently good or bad. We're not born good nor bad. It's something that you learn whether you know it or not. It could also be through an event you experienced.

In the novel, the boys were not inherently good. They killed because, the obvious reason, they had to survive. They needed to kill in order to get meat. When they killed Simon that was an accident. They were so into the chant. Further more, before they were on the island there was a war(World War II) going on where they lived. So that could've impacted their decisions.

Jack and Rodger are not destined to be evil. If they had never landed on the island they would not be evil. They wouldn't have anyone to really kill, because the plane wouldn't have crashed and they would have evacuated safely.

I think Piggy is good because his auntie raised him right, which means he learned right from wrong. This goes back to my point that goodness is learned.

I am not inherently good. I know this, because I was taught right from wrong when I was younger. I have also seen people do bad things and I knew the consequences, so that processed through my brain that I don't want to do those things.

The Lord of the Flies was about a plane crash and kids were traped on an island. And they have to figure out how to live. And they have to face many challanges. I don't think that people are just born good, I think that they can change later on though out their life time. I don't think that Jack and Roger were destined to be evil because if they weren't on that island they most likey never would have been in a situation where he'd want to kill someone or something. And if he wasn't traped on that island then he never would have had to kill animals then he never would have wanted to hunt people also. I think Piggy was ment to be good because you have to be real good to stay nice with everyone and try to keep peace with all the kids. Because if he went thougout the story staying good and following rules and wanting peace then he had to of been born good. I think i was born good because everyone is born good, and the way that you live your life depends on weather or not you are a good or bad when you get older. I also think that you can turn things around if you were a bad kid growing up you can turn good later on in life. As you can also be good then turn into a bad person.

Inherently Good 3

After reading the novel my oppinion still stands the same about people being neither inherently good nor inherently bad. Depending on your life you can be raised in a bad situation and turn out good, you can also be raised in a good situation and turn out bad. I think that there were on three boys in the novel that were inherently good. The boys that were inherently good were Simon, Ralph, and Piggy. They were always good because they didn't want to see people get hurt Ralph and Piggy wanted Jack and his hunters to stop because they were taking hunting to seriously. Simon wanted the group to stay as one and stop fighting before bad things happened to them, this was after he had a talk with the Lord of the Flies. I think that if Jack and Roger had never landed on the Island that they would have never turned evil. By Jack and Roger landing on the Island and becoming the hunters and Jack not having power because the group chose Ralph as the leader and they became evil. Jack and Roger became blood thisty and power thirsty. They wanted to have total power over everyone on the Island and that they were willing to hunt and kill everybody that did not agree with them. I think that Piggy was always ment to be good. While he was alive on the Island he wanted peace and tried to keep it among the boys. Piggy would always get the boys to listen to Ralph and he want the boys to treat each other right and not fight and hunt each other. He thought that it was wrong for the boys to fight over power, food, and who was better. I dont think I am inherently good or inherently bad. I was good then I had some family problems and I took my anger out by doing things which turned me bad. Now I have changed back to good because I have gotten over things.

Final Opinion: Inherent Goodness

In The Lord of the Flies a group of innocent boys turn into a group of savages. I do not think people are inherently good or bad. I think the situation affects how you turn out. You are the one who makes the decision wether you are good or bad. The boys in the novel were not inherently good, or inherently bad. When they arrived on the island each of the boys were good. They wouldn't kill a pig, much less another human. The circumstances of being on the island is what turned most of the boys bad. I do not think Jack or Roger were always meant to be bad. If they hadn't landed on the island i don't think either of them would be killers. When they were on the island and having to take care of themselves and wanting power turned them bad. I think that Piggy wasn't necessarily meant to be good. If he stayed on the island for a long time he might have slid towards being bad. I think I may be born good, but have the potential to be bad. I am not inherently good, if the situation presents it, I think I could turn bad. If I was in the situation the boys were, after a while I could turn bad. It isn't set in stone that I am good, everyone can change. I think it may take more for me to turn bad, but it could happen. I believe that everyone is good at some point. Certain people may turn bad quicker than others, but no one is inherently bad or good. I think where you are and who you're with affects how you turn out. Ultimatley you make the final decision.

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i think that the boys in the novel are inherently good. i think that everyone is. no one can be born just plain evil. something has to happen for you to get that mad or evil. Jack and Roger weren't evil before they were on the island. they went insane once that it came to there mind that they were stuck on that island with a bunch of boys. and Piggy, yes he was good. he could have just as easily turned evil like Jack and Roger. but he didn't. so, i think that he was stronger mentally than Jack and Roger were. some people are just sane, they know how to deal with pain, anger, and scaredness better than others do. Yes, people can be rude, mean, and scary but i don't think that they can be born that way, i mean really. it takes time to become evil, and to tell you the truth, i think that no one can be straight up, plain evil. they have to have some good in them, even if it's just like a little bit. everyone has good in them. (:

INHERENTLY GOOD?!

Now that i have finished the book i am positively sure that NO body can be inherently good! Why?? Jack was always a stubborn stuck up little brat to start with but the killing and the blood, Piggy was nice because that is his personality and he can change but decides not to. Everybody in the novel were good to start with but the killing the blood and the obsession for power is why they are evil with no heart and acting MEAN to the TRIBE!! I am good and bad because its is the situation that makes you react because for example i am nice and i like to be a nice person but when people are mean and grumpy to me i just FLIP OFF and become a bad person!! That is not a really good scene but everyone has a moment in life where the BAD COMES OUT!!!

People are inherently good.

Inherent goodness is something everyone is born with. when you are born you are born good with good intention. as you grow older and develop you go through differnt experiences and according to the experience and how you reacted to it will determine if you stay good or become evil the boys in the novel were all inherently good. not just because the laws of society stopped them but because while jack had the chance to kill the pig when they first arrived he did not because the nature of his good heart didn't allow him. slowly jack and others changed for many reasons like hunting, lust for blood, fear and they were hungry. jack and roger would never have become evil because they wouldnt be under the circumstances they were under in a society. In a society the did not have to hunt and kill for food. everything they had in a society was handed to them. jack wouldnt have worn a painted mask on his face that influenced the savage within him to come out. piggy was always ment to be good. piggy was ment to be good because even in his society wheere he came from he was bullied and picked on but he never changed. when piggy arrived on the island he was put down and he was used to his but he had a good heart and did not change. i am inherently good because i could kill a animal for the enjoyment of it. I can't find myself to do something that i know i should not do for example even to steal a piece of candy. Everyone is differnt but everyone started off the same. They came into this world good with no hurtful intentions and gradually get worse or still stay what you could label as good. This change is because the events that happened in their life. being inherently good is not genetic everyone is differnt but the way you are raised influences how you end up.often people think someone was born bad but that is wrong.everyone is born good.

Final Blog

The boys in the novel are not good. No matter who it was in a way none of them were good. Ralph had his days were he was good and Jack everyday knew what he was becoming and knew what he was doing with his hunters. The boys in this novel became evil because they had to. It was either eat or be on your own. I don't think no one really wants to be by themselves on a island with no one to help them. The novel did potray the goodness and the evil of all the children. In the novel I don't think that if they didn't land on the island then they wouldn't have been been evil. They might have stayed innocent little 12 year old boys. You only become evil unless you are under certain circumstances. They had to become what they were for the sake of themselves. But killing Piggy and Simon wasn't such a good idea. Roger was the one that killed Piggy and he did it because he was evil at heart when he was on the island. If he was at home he would have stayed the way he was and he wouldn't have killed Piggy. In my opinion I think he wasn't. He was picked on and was just like the outcast just like Simon. He should have killed and been the savage with the hunters to prove himself to the others. Instead he was a good person and reminded himself of the rules every day he was on the island. He stuck with Ralph no matter what happend with him and Jack. He didn't want their to be conflict between them but there was anyways. To be honest I don't think that I am. When I was smaller I was bad and it just sort of carried over now that I'm 15. I do have good traits and I do have a good heart I know what good and what isn't but it's just hard to be a teenager and still be good. You're tempted with a lot of things in school and outside of school. Everyone is going to say that are good but in truth everyone has a bad traits and actions. The novel was really good and it was just a good novel. Reading and watching a bunch of 6-12 year olds hunt, kill, and try to get a long just reminds me of what my house used to be like when I was younger. Besides all the killing and torture of everyone in my house.

Lord of the Flies Final

Well the time has come, at last our class has officially finished reading the novel, Lord of the Flies. It was a long experience and I speak for everyone when I say, "Thank goodness we're done." The book was very slow in the beginning and middle of the book. When you got to the last four or five chapters of the book it really began to become exciting and very interesting to read. So my final opinion of inherent goodness of man is that, Some people were born into a warm loving family and others were born into a life no person should ever go through.



The boys in the novel were inherently good but when it came to making decisions that would ultimately save or end their lives, they didn't know what to do and became lost in themselves, and became savages and it seemed the only one to keep his head on was Ralph. Jack became crazy in hunting for meat and the little children agreed with them. So kids are inherently good, but when they get put into a life threatening situation they go crazy. Kids are not to be put in that kind of experience. It's not adequate for their brains to go through that.



Jack and Roger were not destined for evil. They were just children and didn't know what they were doing. They got a blood lust and as a shark does. They went crazy and destroyed almost everything in their path. That includes themselves. They killed Simon and Piggy. So Jack and Roger were not destined for evil. But putting them together made them evil.


Piggy was meant to be good. He was born good and stayed good until his most unfortunate death. He was made fun fun of because of his asthma, weight, and of his wearing of spectacles. Still he stayed optimistic and became good even in the worst of times.


I think that I am Inherently good, even though I was born into a family and raised without my mother and my father having to deal with four boys. I stayed good and helped him by doing chores.
So people are inherently good.

Inherent Goodness

Now that I have finish The Lord Of The Flies I still think that people aren't truly, inherently good. Like in the novel, the boys weren't inherently good. They may have been good when they first got to the island but when they left, none of them were good. They all changed somewhat throughout the story. Like Jack and Roger, all they wanted to do was kill. They came to the island as good school boys. They left blood thirsty savages. They weren't destined to be evil, they brought it upon themselves. They spent all the time hunting and ended up killing two boys. They would never hace become this evil if they had not landed on the island. They would have carried out normals lives, and never would have known what it's like to be stuck on an island. As for Piggy he was mostly good. He was one of the only boys on the island that was good. He was innocent. Although he wasn't always good, he was better than most of the kids on the island. He was never one to hunt, or kill. He was for the most part good. I'd have to say that I am not truly inherently good. Although I'm not evil I am not truly good. I've made mistakes and haven't always been the best. No one is really good. No one is and stays inherently good. They all change and do bad things once in a while. People change for the worse some times. No matter how good or bad of a situation/life you are born into, doesn't mean you can't change your future and make it what you want it to be.

I think that the boys in the Novel Lord of the Flies where born inherently good. Every baby is born good but what decides how they are going to be for the rest of their lives are the experiences that they go through in there lives. Jack and Roger where not destined to be evil but because of the situation that they found them selves in they did turn evil. Jack was lead boy at their school lead choir kid he was supposed to be a role model for all the other choir members he just became obsessed with hunting because once he got a taste for it he couldn't stop. He also became drunk with power he didn't agree with Ralph's leadership he thought that his way of fun and hunting was the best way. Anybody but under that kind of stress and pressure would crack and become crazy savages just like Jack and Roger. Roger was under stress he missed his parents and the order of civilization. So because of that he did bad things in hope that somebody would tell him that what he was doing something wrong. Piggy was meant to be good just like everybody else that was on the island. But when he was under pressure instead of going crazy and becoming a savage he became obsessed with the rules and order he started wanting more and more order. Which is not a bad thing because the rules were the only thing they had left. I think I am inherently good just like everybody else if was in a situation like the boys in Lord of the Flies then I don't know what would happen.

Are people inherently good?

People are inherently good in my opinion. People have the ability to be evil, but only when they need or want to be. Things can be so bad that it can change a persons views or opinions about them. With that, they change their whole attitudes, that doesn't mean their whole mind-set is different.

For example when Simon was murdered. That was evil. But that's what Jack thought was necessary at the time. Simon was an inherently good person, while Jack was seen to be evil, or mean, but at heart he is still a young boy just as Simon was. They both had different views on life and the way things worked but at heart they both thought and KNEW what was really the right thing to do in every situation. Whether or not they CHOSE to do that, was up to them.

Another example is when Rodger killed Piggy. Ralph KNEW what was right, but he CHOSE not to do so. This doesn't mean Rodger is inherently evil either, it means he makes poor decisions. Yes, killing someone is the ultimate status symbol for being evil. But, they CHOSE to do so. So its not really about being born evil its about making the right or wrong choices.

So overall its a self conscience choice you make as to what you do. You can't be born to be evil. When the young boys came or crashed on the island they hadn't been exposed to such measures, so they weren't born that way. Therefore it wasn't inherent. Choices got them where they are and to what they are doing now. If a person makes the decision to change and be a better or worse person, and really try hard enough then that's what they will get out of it. You get what you put into life.

Are people inherently good?

Are people inherently good? Well, the side that I choose is people can be inherently good. They can be good when they want to be but under a lot of influence and peer pressure we can become bad. When you're born you're born with good intentions and you don't know what right from wrong is. As you grow up you start to learn what right and wrong is. You can develope emotions and actions once you get old enough to finally notice and realize what they actually are. An example from the story would be when Simon was killed. In general he was just a good person throughout the whole story. Even though he was murdered he didn't deserve it in any way. All caught up in the rain dance that they were doing but it's partially everyone's fault for his death. They could have stopped but they didn't. That's when you realy know that all innocence of the children; even the littleuns is gone completely. Simon was good because he helped the littleuns and took care of them and he helped them with whatever they needed. Another example is Piggy and his character. What he depicts in the story is really just order and how he follows everything and all the rules that Ralph makes. Piggy makes sure that there is order and out of his kindness he tries to keep everything in order and keep everything working properly. That's just because even though to be born good to be a genuine good person you have to be somewhat like Simon and Piggy. If you choose to be bad than that's just your choice. I think that as you grow older that your sense fo right from wrong is totally different than it was when you were smaller. An example from my life would just be the same. When I was younger I was a really bad kid and I wanted everything that my sister had. I wasn't good at all until I grew out of it and grew up that I had to learn from past experinces that I was bad and couldn't get everything that I wanted. But now that I'm older and a lot more understanding I know how to act and what to do, and I know what right from wrong is. People with bad influences and just not good people arould them have a tendency to turn out that way.

Are We Who We Think We Are.?

"There are things that you go through in life to show you the brighter side of things, but its your choice on how you go through those thing". The way I see it is that it doesn't matter what kind of situation you are born into or brought through you still have the choice to make your life go the way you want it to. The story LOTF is showing how just some ordinary good kid change over a period of time because they don't have civilization. To me it seem that everybody has a chance to be a good person but everyone doesn't make the choice that they are going to do right.

In the story they are all chanting going the rain dance are not worrying about anything else but as soon as the see something or someone they attack them. Not knowing that it was Simon, you wouldn't believe that they would kill there own friend but they did. They didn't really realized that " Yeah we just killed our own friend but blamed him not taking the responsibly to say we were not playing attention and just killed him.

They was another event that happen when Piggy was trying to get the boys to understand that they need to get on the same page. They need to work together instead of working against one another, but Roger disagreed with Piggy & what he was saying so he started dropping rock then a big rock hit Piggy on the head. Causing him to fall and bust his head, and dead. Piggy had the crouch in his hand when he fell so as he fell the crouch fell and shattered causing the little civilization that they had to be shattered.

My cousin was brought up in a bad home her mother was never home & when she was all she did was argue. She was raped when she was 13 by her daddy's bother, and had a baby at 17. But through all of the trails she went through she is attention Saint Augustine's College, Is a buttercup cheerleader, & a great mother the Sha'yah. So even though she was brought up in a bad home and went through bad situation she still came out being a great person.

"No weapon formed against you shall prosper no it want work, god will do what he said he will do".

Inheritance (hmmmmmmmmmmm)

No, people are not inherently good or bad. They change depending on how they grow up. What happens to them and what experiences they go through. You can choose to be good or bad. Its not something that your automatically born with. In life you will change between good and bad multiple times. Your lust for evil will clash with your conscience telling you to do good.

In the beginning of the novel Ralph is nice and good. He helps everyone and is happy. He changes through out the story though. He is still mostly nice but you see times where he is mean. Where he yells at people and hurts people. Also Jack didn't start out as evil as he was. He was just a regular kid in the beginning. He changed once he started hunting though. He loved the adrenaline rush he got from killing. He started acting more wild and savage. After a while he became alright with killing human beings.

When my sister and me were younger we hated each other. We were always ready to choke one another. We got in so many fights and caused quite a few uproars. Me and her were very stub urn and thought the other Special treatment. We have grown up now and are best friends. We hang out together and have a lot of fun. We learned not to fight and changed our attitudes. Me and her have changed a lot from back then.

These examples show that people can change. We are not born good or bad. We are born normal on a medium and change from there. We could decide that living a life of badness is funner or you could find helping people funner. Its more your decision and how you live life. Whatever makes you happy.

Are people good or evil??

I don't think that people are inherently good or inherently evil. People change and become either good or bad depending on their individual lives. Some people that start out as good because they are brought up in a good family setting can turn evil because people in their life expect them to be good and acheive high goals and sooner or later they will get upset due to the pressure that is put on they and they could act out in rages of evil. Some people that start out bad because they are brought up in a horrible home life can turn good because they want to prove their family wrong and acheive something that their family never could. In the book the boys all start out as good. When Jack is assigned as the head hunter and makes his mask he gets to caught up in hunting and no longer sees the wrong in it. That's why he doesn't feel remosre in of the killings of Simon and Piggy. Jack is blood thirsty and he wants to do nothing but kill people and things or anything that has a breath. In the book the boys do start out as good. The only boys that stay good through out the novel is Ralph and Piggy. They see that there is evil in the group and they want to change them and keep the others from truning evil but it is to late. Ralph and Piggy try to stop Jack from killing Piggy but he isn't strong enough. When there are people that are brought up in bad home lives grow up some try and become good but others give up trying and just take their anger out on everybody and turn evil. If someone is brought up in an abusive home and once they are grown up they try and make something of themselves and prove to others that they are better than their family. If someone is brought up in a very well off family and they have high standers their family soon the pressure will get to them and they cant take it anymore and then they act out in rages of anger and become evil.

Good, You Feel Me!

I stated once that I beleive people arent born bad, and I still beleive that to a degree. I now beleive that people are born bad but not evil. Theres a difference. You see evil is bad thoughts and bad actions, you hert people for the fun of it. Bad just means your unsaved and dont know God yet. Everyone is born a sinner but that person can change by talking to god and asking him to save you. Once that happens you will try to do better in everything you do. So yes, people are born bad but not evil. Even when people are doing good and doing good things that same person can change from good to bad multiple times. A good example of this in our novel is when the kids arrive at the island most of the kids are good but in the end most of them turn evil and murderers. Alot of celebrities are born in bad and dangerous situations and families but make the choice to change and be different. Nobody can stay good their whole life but they can sure try and thats what many people do.

Are People Inherently Good? : Number 2

I do not believe that people are born good or bad. I believe that you can be born into good and bad situations but just because you are born into a bad situation doesn't mean that you cannot turn yourself into something that is good.

A reason from the novel that makes me believe that people can be born into bad situations but turn good and vice versa is how they came to the island innocent but then as the story went on they became more and more evil and eventually killed Simon. Even though some say that is was Simon's own fault and he committed indirect suicide while others say that it was everyone who killed him.

Another example is how Roger killed Piggy. Roger killed Piggy because Piggy was trying to make everyone civilized and since Roger did not want that. He killed Piggy by making a huge rock fall on Piggy. When Piggy was killed he had the conch, it was shattered and civilization had vanished. This just shows how people can start out good and turn into bad people.

An example in the real world would be Oprah Winfrey. She was born into a horrible life, she was born into poverty, raped at 9, sexually abused by her mom's boyfriend and her uncle and had a baby at fourteen. And know she is very successful with her show and at one point she was the only African American billionaire in the world.

Are people inherently good?

I think that people are inherently good. If their parents are good people and have good morals then that is the way thier kid will be. The only way kids are inherently good is if their parents teach them to be good. If their parents do not teach them and they do not care then the child will not be good. One person that is inherently good from the novel "Lord of the Flies" is Piggy. I think that piggy is inherently good because of the way he does not like fighting. Jack is not a good person and piggy is the opposite of Jack. Piggy does not like to argue or fight or anything so he is one of the few people on the island that is good. Another person from the novel that is inherently good is Ralph. He was mainly good at the begining of the novel. He changed throught the story but he was mainly good but he did change and became bad towards the end of the novel. In the begining of the story he was trying to help out everybody else but when they all split up he changed. I think that one person from a real life situation is Oprah. She was born in a bad situation and turned into one of the best person in the world. She was turned into a very nice person and has done a lot for people that have nothing. I think that she is one of the very few people in the world that is inherently good.

Are people inherently good??

By definition inherently means existing in someone or something as a perament or inseparable element, ability, or attitude. Good means morally excellent. So the question is, are people morally excellent from birth until death? My answer at an earlier time was yes, but with a better understanding of the question, I do not think my previous acusation was accurate. At the beginning of the novel, Jack seemed like a normal kid. After his first killing, however, he recieved a behemothic adrenaline rush. Soon he became even more power hungry and savage than he was at the openning of the story. It even came to the point that killing each other did not bother him. Roger is another good example of my opinion. At first, he was a quiet child. Then he was kind of like Jack's partner in crime. One of my friend was a very bad kid. But after losing the only thing he cared about, he changed. He got good grades, got along with people, and just got really nice. He changed, instead of staying like he was.

Born good?

People are not born inherently good. I think that one is good because of the people and things in their surroundings. When someone has a good family with them, they will probably end up being good people. If someone has a bad family, they will more than likely turn out to be bad. Sometimes it's not really who you have around you that makes you a bad person, but things you do along that way that trigger that bad side of you. Being good or bad is not something you are born with, it's something you choose to be.

For instance, Jack, from the book The Lord of the Flies, was a good kid at the beginning of the story. We don't know if he had good parents or a good family, just that he was kind of well behaved. In the story, when he was put in charge of hunting, he changed. Something inside him changed, that revealed his bad side. Once he wore the mask, he would become a savage. That mask changed him from the good kid he was into a very savage person. He killed the pig with no problem at all and was just plain evil with all the other little kids.

Another example from the book is Ralph. Although, he stayed good most of the novel, you can see places where he was evil. In the beginning of the story, Ralph was a very happy, helpful boy. He helped out all of the kids. He didn't fight when Jack would want to start something with him or anything like that. But, as the story went along, you can start to see how Ralph is changing. He is no longer happy and he yells at the kids. He becomes bossy and nobody likes him anymore. Ralph starts to yell and even hurt some of the kids in the novel. In this example, Ralph didn't decide to be good or bad, but everything around him was what made him act the way he did.

When I was little I had a neighbor who I would always play with. She was very wealthy and pretty. Her parents would give her anything she wanted. But as we grew up, she started to change. She got into bad habits and started hanging out with bad people. Even though she had a good family, a good life, she wasn't happy. Her parents would give her things but never time and love. She chose to be a bad person to seek attention. Her plan worked. Her parents started paying more attention to her and became more involved in her life. She went from a good kid to a bad kid to, once again, a good kid.

As you can see, you aren't born inherently good or evil. It's things and people in your life that make you who you are. It's a choice you can make to define who you will be in life.

INHERENTLY GOOD??!?!

NO.......some people have parents that are extremely nice but that does not mean that u are BORN nice. It can influence on how you act or can become nice but every body will have a moment of BEING MEAN AND GRUMPY. In the story like Ralph came nice but then he called "PIGGY" fatty.

and when they killed Simon.... he took some blame.

I can be nice like when taking care of children but when they act bad i feel like CHOCKING THEM. From nice to BAD i go and i am nice because i want to not because they make me be nice .

People are nice because they want to they choose to be nice

EVil Or BaD

Everyone is born good no one can be bad because they dont know what bad things are. The things that make them bad may be the way they are raised and the enviroment that they are rasied. People influence them to change so thats how people are introduced to the bad side of the world. Also by the people who they are around because they get influenced too. Another thing is that people turn bad because other people do it and they thing its cool and if you dont do it your a whimp. Thats what some of them take it as. SO people dont want to be called whimps so they do. There was real live story about a kid that had just moved to a new city and his first day at his new school he meet some friends. It turns out that they arent very good friends. So one day after school he meets them at one og the boys house. The new kid doesnt know anything of what they do. So they take him out on the streets and they see a howbow so they tell him to shoot at him. He doesnt want to do it but people dint want to see him as whimp so he does it. Later on They beat up a guy to death with a baseball bat. Well the new kid doesnt know who his dad is so it turns out that they guy the beat to death is his dad. They get charges and are in prison for 30 Years. From lored of the flies Jack is bad boy and the other boys want to be like him so they start to be bad like him by killing the pig and in chapter 12 they all turn down on Ralph to kill him so they all bad and they want to put his head on a stick like the pig. Another example is about people staying good like PIggy he is nice boy but the other boys are mean to him but he still ingnores them and stays good. These are people that stay good and dont get influenced.

Inherently Good Or Inherently Bad ?

I believe people are neither inherently good or inherently bad because it all comes with influence . People tend to act like the people they hang around . They learn to act like that .

Example 1 : When they got on the island . They had never killed or even thought of killing until they learned they had to survive that way . Jack was crazed after he killed for the first time and then his group slowly became crazed along with him .

Example 2 : Sometimes it's not always bad . Like Ralph ; the island influenced him to use the skills he learned growing up . He had to know how to take care of himself without adults . He had to depend on his knowledge to survive without going crazy and killing .

My own example is my sister . She was alright growing up . I believe I was better , but she was good enough . As she went through elementary school she became a brat and began acting like her friends . Her friends influenced her to act the way she did .

I think that people can be born either good or bad but they can be the opposite when they get older. They could of been a bad kid but got thier life turned around. Or they could have been good and did really good in school but when they get older they could turn really bad. One example of people being born good and turing bad is everyone killed Simon. They didn't have to kill him. They were reanacting the hunt and Simon came stumbling out of the woods and they got caught into it and killed him. And Roger was a good guy at the beginning but towards the end of the book he stole Piggy's glasses and then killed him. Roger killed Piggy because he wanted to be civil with everyone but he didn't want to, he wanted to be in charge. Another person that was born good and then turned bad later on in thier life was Hittler. When he grew up he killed a lot of people because they were Jews and he didn't like them.

Inherent Goodness

I do not think that people are inherently good or bad. I think that the reasons people are good or bad depend on the situation they are in. Many people begin out good, but as time passes they can get more and more evil. Lord of the Flies proves that you are not necessarily born a certain way because the characters changed throught the span of the novel. In the beginning Jack was not able to hunt and kill just a little pig. Twords the end of the novel he took part in beating Simon to death, and not have remorse for it. He changed because of the enviornment and living situations. He had to hunt to survive and it made him bad, he wasn't always a bad person. Also in Lord of the Flies Roger is a good example as well. In the beginning he was really good, calm, and quiet. As the novel progressed he got worse and worse. Twords the end of the novel he was the sole person that killed piggy. He pulled the lever that dropped the rock that killed piggy, alone. The enviornmental factors played a role in his becoming bad, he wasn't born that way. In the real world a good example would be Adolf Hitler. He was born into a good family who tried to teach their kids right from wrong. When he got out on his own into the world he began to turn bad. The people he was with could have influenced him to turn into the bad person he was. He wasn't born evil, he was a good child.

People are not born inherently good because children do what they learn to do. That is kind of the whole point of parenting so that you teach your children the difference between good and bad. When a child is born they don't know anything they are a clean slate. Even if someone is born into a good environment and their parents teach them the difference between right and wrong and raise them to be good they could still end up bad.
The kids in the book where in a military school and obliviously had discipline and structure they where raised to be good. Jack went crazy and did a lot of bad stuff and he started going crazy and killing pigs. Jack ended up not caring about being civilized he wasn't the only one they were all responsible for the death of Simon because they beat him to death.
All of the boys in Lord of the Flies ended up turning into savages and painting their faces and dancing around like uncivilized people. Roger killed piggy he was part of the school group when they got to the island he was also civilized and wanted to order but he went savage too. Jack was part of the boys choir he was actually the leader of them but he still went bad.

inherently good? (:

the side i pick is that people are born good, but they can change to evil, or not so good. one reason from the novel is that the boys, before that they crashed on that island, they were good, but the island turned them evil. another reason is that people can change, people do change, a lot. no one can stay the same all there life. everyone can be anyway, like evil or not. we're all still human. you can't just turn evil, something has to help or make you turn evil. something has to happen for you to get that mad, or angry. people are born good, but has the choice to turn evil or not.

People are inherently good.

People are born good. No one is born bad. People either change to be bad later in life or stay good due to the events that occur to them. If something horrible or traumatic happens to them they could turn bad or stay good. In the story Jack was a good kid when they first got there and slowly he became bad. Many things influenced this like he started wearing a mask, wanted control, and started killing pigs. Piggy was good and he stayed good even though everyone gave him a really hard time. In batman his parents were murderd and that motivated him to stop crime and become a super hero. Ralph was good when they arrived and he remained good as well. Roger was good and he became real bad. Most of the kids on the island were good and they became bad when they folowed jack. Super man was born good and even though he too was differnt he chose to stay good. No one is born bad because they arent born knowing what bad things are. When people have gone through experiences and have had others give them bad influences or because they need money/food they can become bad.

Inherent Goodness.

I believe that people are not inherently good or bad, because it is something that comes through influence. It's something you learn from.

For example, in the novel, when they got on on the island they had to kill in order to survive. If they didn't have to survive then they wouldn't have the need kill.

Another example is, when Simon dies. The tribe was so into their chanting they didn't mean to kill him.

In a real life example, as I said before to be good or bad it has to be learned. Babies/children they do things bad and may not know it or on accident. Then usually the parents correct them and if they continue to do it then they'll keep being corrected. Eventually they realize it's wrong and they stop doing whatever that is wrong.

Inherently Good

People are not always born inherently good. Some people might, but most people are not. Even if they are born good they will not stay good. People change, and make mistakes. No one is truely and inherently born good and stays good. Like in the novel the Lord Of The Flies they came to the island mostly good, but they changed. None of them are innocent and purely good now. They are killers, they became blood thirsty. They killed the beast, then Simon, then Piggy. They are not inherently good. Also they also have no interest in being good anymore. They are savages. They boys are all wild and crazy. The boys might have been good before they came, but now they are not good. No one is truely good. People can be born into bad situations and change to be good, and they can be born into good situations and turn bad. No one will stay good forever, people make bad decisions. Much like Hilter, or Oprah. Hilter was born into a good family and a good situation and turned bad. While Oprah was born into a bad situation and turned good. They both made the decision to be what they wanted to become. No one will stay good. Being born good is one thing, but staying good forever is another. People tend to make bad decisions and do things without thinking of the consequences. We tend to do what we want when we want. Whether it is a good decision, or a bad one. People make mistakes and don't stay good forever.

Masks

I think that using a mask is not a good thing because its pretty much hiding who you really are. You dont have to use different masks with different people beacause it makes you feel like if your hiding something which you pretty much are. You are because you probably dont want that person to see who you are with different people. I understand if you do it for something really importen, but there isnt a need to do it with people you meet. It makes you feel like your doing something bad kind of like holding a lie.

Lord of the Flies 9-11

I think that the Islanders would have never become killers if they never landed on the island. I believe this because if their plane was never shot down by the war then they would have all gone their seperate ways and would have never killed eachother. Jack was sort of insane in the beginning by taking charge that ultimately was not needed. Simon would have not been beat to death. Piggy wouldn't have been crushed by a rock from the lever that Roger pulled. They would have stayed innocent children. I think that by giving children ages ranging from 6-12 was a not so smart move to make. Your gonna mess up a chld by handing him a spear and go crazy with it. Their going to think that it's ok to kill and when they grow up if they get off the Island their going to be serial killers when they grow up. They should have given the strongest and oldest kids the position of the hunters. Then maybe they wouldnt be as crazy as they already are. I think if they get rescued if there's any children left on the island, then they are going to need some oxicotton to cool their nerves. They're also going to have to go through some serious rehabilitation programs so they will be able to control themselves if they ever get a little messed up in the head. They will never be the same. They will be physically, but never mentally. If only they never crashed on the Island.

Killers (Lord of the Flies)

The boys from Lord of the Flies were thrown into a terrible situation. They were placed into something they should never have been placed in. If the boys had never been on the island, I do not believe that they would have become killers. They were thrown into a situation that caused them to become killers. They lost their sense of control. I do not however think that the hunting caused them to become killers. Many people in world hunt, most of them are not cold blooded killers. The hunting is a survival technique. It is for food purposes, not just to kill. I think they will have a very hard time adjusting back to the real world. Jack's and Roger's future does not look so bright either, as they probably will be in that kill mode for the rest of their lives. It's a really awful situation to be honest. They will have a hard time if they go back to the real world.

lord of the flies!

If the boys never landed on the island I don't think they would have become killers because they would have just been at home, going to school doing normal stuff and they would not have to be killers to survive.

I think that they were not thrown into the role of hunters. They just felt like they had to hunt to be able to survive. Them thinking they had to be hunters has torn them apart and has killed many of their own.

In their future I think they will either still be on the island or dead. I say this because they are not a group anymore. They have gone their separate ways. If they hadn't gone their separate ways they may have survived and been found.

If they are rescued, which I believe they will not be, but if they are rescued I think that there would be hope for them. I think this because if they are rescued then they will go back to their homes and if they keep being killers then they will punished and I think that if they thought about how they would be punished then they will stop being killers and live a normal life.

Killers

The boys would have not become killers if they have not become killers because they were much civilized . They became savages and WILD when they killed the Pig and when they killed SIMON. When they started to hunt they kind of became obsessed with the blood. They would even act out how they killed it.

IF they are rescued they will STILL be murderers because they killed Simon and Piggy maybe it was an accident but once they are dead they are gone and THEY KILLED HIM!!! IF they get rescued they might have that addiction of killing and might murder something and will get in trouble for it.

When they were given the role of hunters obviously they had to kill and knowing that they are going to KILL t might have become an addiction.

Lord of the Flies

I think that the beast inside of each boy came out, after crashing on the island. I dont think that they were necessarily born that way. But because of the circummstances they did what they had to do. If I were them, I dont honestly see myself being able to kill somone. Over anything! I might argue or fight with someone for food, if it was really necessary but other than that, I woud try to have peace with everybody. I don't think that they will ever be able to be the same, little boys that play in the yard, or go outside, or hang out with friends. In my opinion they will be violent and rough. Because now they have been exposed to killings, hunting,and surviving on their own. So its normal and reality to them. If they get rescued and try to go back to normal lives, things will be different. And if they go back to their old ways that they got while they were on the island.... then more than likely they will end up in jail or living on the streets. But, on the otherhand they could possibly be more independent.

The boys were in some kind of military school before they landed on the island so they were being taught about respect and discipline. When they grew up some of them were probably going to join the military some some of them would have being killers if they would never have landed on the island. I think that Jack would have probably killed some one even if they hadn't landed on the island just because of his attitude that he wants to be in control of everything and wants to have fun and not do the important things. Some of them though would never become killers because they are too scared or obey the rules too much.
I think that being thrown into the rule of hunters might have contributed to them becoming killers because they spend their days killing animals and connecting with their wild side. They also didn't like each other like Jack and Piggy or Jack and Ralph so eventually after all the time they had to spend together somebody would end up dieing. Even after the boys are rescued though they will need some therapy or something because they went through a traumatizing experience they killed their own friends and peers. They spent way too much time killing things and even Jack isn't called Jack any more they call him Chief. They have refused to act civilized so entering them into a society that has laws will be hard. If they get rescued they will have to get accustomed to how things work in the real world where they can't run around naked with spears and face paint.
In the future I think that they will all end up going crazy and completely insane they will end up killing each other and never get rescued. Ralph will go insane and try to kill Jack to try to reestablish dominance and become Chief again so that they can start the fire and get rescued. Jack will also try to kill Ralph and get ride of him forever

lord of the flies

I think that the boys would not have become killers if they did not land on the island. I think that they would be the same way that they were before they were on the island. I think they were forced into being killers because of the way they hunted. I also think that they were not born into hunters much less killers. the only reason that they became killers was because of their hunting position. Most kids were just trying to survive for themselves. The only reason that they killed the other kids was that they. If they would not have been forced into surviving for them selfs then they would not have killed all the innocent kids that they have killed. I think that there is hope for some of the people if they get rescued but not all of them. For example I think that Jack will remain the same power freak for the rest of his life. Jack will not change at all because he is already used to haveing everybody do everything for him. If they get rescued some of them might change but some of them will not.

Young Killa's

I beleive to assume that these kids were born to be killers or would have killed people even if they never would have landed on this island is just unfair. Thses kids are good kids that probably had a bright future. Nobody in this world is born a killer i think the events and choices that take place in your life make you a killer. No one is born to kill people. The main reason thse unfortunate kids became killers is because they were put in hunters role on the island. And when you kill something not only does it give you a adrenaline rush, you can also become addicted to that great feeling and want to do it all the time. And i think thats what happend to these kids. They killed a few things and become addicted to killing. Its unfortunate that that to happen to these kids. Since they are now addicted if they get rescued they will always have killing in the back of their mind.

To kill or not to kill (lord of the flies)

I do think that them hunting caused them to kill. They had to kill to survive so they started to see it as an alright thing to do. They are too young to understand that killing is wrong.

Landing on that island isn't the only thing that made them killers though. If they had continued life and hadn't crashed then some of them still could have grown up to be murderers. They could have grown up life in a bad place or with a abusive family and would end up killing some one.

If they get rescued then they could help and end up being great people. Although the image of killing people would probably be stuck in their mind forever. They could end up having an uncontrollable desire to kill. They might be scared for life because of that experience.

Killers ?

If they wouldn't have landed on the island , I don't think the boys would have become killers . I think that the only reason they started killing is because they think that's the only way to survive . When really it isn't . They think it'll help them survive longer if they kill off their enemies instead of calling a truce . They're really just making it harder to survive .

I think that being thrown into hunting like the group of guys were caused this . They went so long without killing anything it made them crazy . They became insane .So when they finally started killing something it's not just the animals . They begin killing other people that were innocent . The "hunters" have their minds focused on hunting and hunting alone and they don't pay attention to who their killing .

If they get rescued then they'll probably have to get mental or psychiatric help . If they don't then they'll probably come back with the mind of killing and begin killing more innocent people . That's only if they make it off the island without killing anymore people .

Chapter 9-11

The boys would have never become killers if they would have never landed on the island because being there having to actually hunt for food and the feeling of power changed them. Now that they were hunters they saw the blood and found it fun to hunt. In the book they liked the feeling of power and hiding behind a mask. If they get back to society they will always have the feeling of a once held power and the mark of a killer wont leave them. They might not kill anyone else but deep down inside them they are still killers. There experince on the island will carry on with them for the rest of their lives. When they live back in their soceity they will slowly adapt to their old lifestlye. Seeing themselves in there old clothes and combed hair they will see how foolish they looked painted like savages. Having grown up around them will change alot. In a society they did not need to hunt because they could buy the meat. Their old innocence of kids did allow them to have to courage to kill a pig. They will probably be tempted at first to make their own rules. The mask played a big part in them becoming killers because they felt hidden behind it and they could do what they want. They were also proabaly using hunting as a method to get rid of there frustration of being away from home. Jack was a big reason they became killers becasue he was giving them bad advise. They will probably forget about most of it.

Lord of The Files

I don't think that they would have become killers because they most likey wouldn't have been in that type of situation. I think that if they wouldn't have landed on that isalnd that they would still have their innonce. Since they were on that island they had to face chanllanges that they wouldn't have to face till later on or never had to. They wouldn't of had to fight to be alive and fight in order to get food. They also wouldn't have needed to grow as fast if they wouldn't have crashed there and they would still be doing things kids would do at that age. I think it may have a reason why they became killers but not all of the reason. Because they knew they had to kill animals for food but they didn't have to kill eachother. I think they started killing eachother because they wanted to show that they are in charge and they are the better hunter. They also may think that they have to prove that they are the better hunter than everyone else on the island. I think that there may be hope for them that they wouldn't do it again. But that thought would stay in their head that they had killed someone when they were younger. Also if they get rescued and they never get caught about doing the killing then they may think that if they didn't get caught the first time then they may want to keep doing it. But if they felt really bad about killing someone then they most likey won't do it again because they don't want to go though that again. But I think that there is hope that they won't be forever killers.

Killers?

I think that if the boys would have never landed on the island, then they wouldn't be killers. The reason being is because they wouldn't have anything to kill. They are killing on the island, because they've gone mad!

Yes, I do think that having them being the hunters caused them to be to become killers because, well if they are killing things they might be focused on that one thing. Then it becomes "second nature" to them. Then it becomes a habit, that they cannot control. I believe that in their futures there will be a lot of death and such, that is if they don't get off the island. Also, they may feel sadness and loneliness if they continue to kill.

"IF" they are rescued then they will still be hope for them, because when they are rescued they won't have to survive on their own. As I said before, they wouldn't have anything to kill for.

Killers?

If the boys never crashed and landed on this island I don't think they would ever be killers. I think being on the island alone for so long made them go crazy and resort to this. Since they've had to survive for so long with absolutely nothing they don't know what to do. I think them hunting caused them to become killers and without it they wouldn't have done it. When they killed their first pig it took them a while to do it. They didn't want to kill, so if they weren't on the island they wouldn't have ever killed. I think they could still be something in the future if they are rescued. They could still live life like an everyday person would and have a job. They will be scarred for life though. They still know themselves they they killed two innocent boys. So they may still be able to do every day things, just not as well as some other people because of the murders in the back of their heads. I think there is hope for them that they won't still go on killing when they get older. I don't think any of the boys will kill again once they are off of the island. Although, they are all still "killers" because they have done it once. They all know that when they were on the island they murdered someone. It will hang over their heads everyday of their life. So mentally they are all still killers, though physically I don't think they will.

Lord of the Flies:)

I think that the boys would not have become killers if they were never on the island. to me, they only become killers because they were on the island. when you are surrounded by the same people 24 hours, 7 days a week, don't you think that it would be annoying? well, yeah but they wouldn't have killed anyone if they weren't on the island. I do think that being in the roles of hunters, killed things for food and survival, caused them to be killers for there own kind. the only thing that they were thinking is how to keep them safe and alive. they would do anything to stay alive, even if it was killing there best friends. they should have made a plan that everyone agreed on, not just one leader or dictator. When or if they are rescued, i think that it will come to them that they're a killer, whoever survives. and no, i don't think that they will kill anymore once they're off that island. but i think that they will be scard for life about who they all killed. and will feel bad about how they suvived, and the others didnt. that's just my opinion.

Chapter 9 and 11

In the end of chapter 9 Simon was killed and beaten to death because he was wondering through the night and Jack and his followers saq him and they were too caught up in what was happening because they were doing a ritual to call the rain to them. I don't think that if they didn't end up on the island together than those murders wouldn't have happend. If they were in civilization than they might not have had contact with each other and they would have lived their normal lives and not had the influence that they had. Being a hunter can overwhelm you and all of the sudden you can have the sudden urge to kill something and then that could lead to them murdering someone. Being a hunter can have its advantages and disadvantages but when you're killing more than just animals for food than you know there is something wrong with you mentally. The Savages are thinking they are doing it for survival but you can't survive without the smartest people and Piggy and Simon were the wisest and knew what was supposed to be done on the island. I think that their future for the older ones could possibly lead to jail and serious counsling. For the littleuns they might not remember but seeing two people murdered right infront of your eyes than that can dramatize you for a long time and hopefully that won't lead to issues with their future. Maybe Jack and Roger will continue to kill but the others might not. They know what they did and at the time they really didn't care about what happend to Piggy and Simon. If they actually were in their right set of minds then they could notice that killing someone for power and satisfaction isn't the right way of getting rid of someone. They are forever killers because you can't get away from the fact that you killed 2 people for no reason because they weren't following your orders and they were not in your group.

Lord Of the Flies

I think that if they had never got stuck on the island they have been nothing close to killers because they are kids that went to school and they were never close to spears and stuff like that alsothat kill. Since they didnt know how to do anything about life because they were younger then 12 and their mother most likly did everything for them so they didnt know how to control things. So while they argued they just got into fights and pretty tried to kill each other.

So I do think that the role of hunters did cause them to become killers because the need of food in order to survive cause them to do anything. The thing was that once they killed that first pig they started to like to much. So once they liked it they werent just doing it for the meat no more they were doing for fun because they thought it was very exciting. So killing got stuck in there minds and they didnt care for the animal. SO not caring for the animal made them think it was ok to kill others. As you can see when both SImon And Piggy died they acted like if nothing had happen they didnt even cry or anything. That was because of the hunting, they acted exactly like if they had just killed a wild boar. They started to do it as a game as you can in the book they started to play between them using each other.

If they do get rescued i think there is no hope for them they will be forever because they will go back home and it will be stuck in their minds. They will start to do it like if its a game because they like and they cant stop. Also if they have problems there going to settle them by killing.

Lord of the Flies

If the boys on the island had never landed on the island, I don't think they would have ever become killers. They wouldn't have to kill to survive like they are doing now. They have to kill to eat, but they take it too far by killing Simon and Piggy. They get caught up in the roles of being hunters. The boys wouldn't have been like this is they weren't put in this situation. If they remain on the island their futures won't be to good. They will continue to fight and hurt eachother. The boys will continue to hunt and be savages. This has become their way of life, they won't change. They don't want to change. They like to hunt and kill. If the boys are rescued they might change. They aren't going to be killers forever. On the island this is the way they choose to live. They have to kill to eat. Although killing Simon and Piggy wasn't at all nessecary. They can change, it might be harder for Jack than it is for someone else, but they are all capable of changing.

Killers?

I think that the boys would have not become killers if they would have not landed on the island. They reason I think this is because they became killers due to the fact that they live on the island all by themselves and with no adult supervision. Even though they tried to act like grown-ups and do things right, things went the wrong way. I believe that by trying to be hunters, it eventually got to their head. They became savages and had to kill. Resulting to the death of Simon and Piggy. If the boys are to be found, I think that they will stop killing. After they get a look of the lifes they had before landing on the island, everything will be pretty much normal. I mean, they will still live with the idea that they killed Simon and Piggy, but that can't be changed. For some it will probably be more dificult because of how much they have changed throughout the book. For the others, things haven't really changed and things will be easier for them to get back to normal. All I think, is that none of them will be killers forever.

Lord of the Flies

I don't think the boys would have been killers if they had never landed on the Island. I think this because since they were on the Island the boys had to act more mature and had to fulfill more grown up roles to survive on the Island. I think that since some of the boys had to be put into roles of hunters that when they killed something or someone and didn't get in trouble they thought it was okay to do. The younger ones that hunted it is what they had been tought and they hadn't got in trouble so they had learned that hunting and killing was okay and that's why they kept doing it. They were all brought up or tought to be killers.

I think the funture of the boys will be hard because they have killed and hunted for so long that it is natural to them and they dont see anything wrong with it so there for it will be hard to break them from it. If the boys ever do change they want be the same and they problly will go back to killing and hunting if they don't find enjoyment in whatever there new job is. I dought that any of the boys except Ralph will ever stop killing or go back to there old selves before they had crashed onto the Island.

If they're rescued off the Island I don't think there is hope for the boys because they have been hunting and killing for awhile and it's the only thing they have been doing and they been getting away with it so therefore they want change. The only person I think that has hope of changing back into his old ways is Ralph because he hasn't really changed that much on the Island so he want have such a hard time changing. The other boys if they change or even want to change at all will take them a long time beacuse they learned that it is okay to do what they have been doing. Some of the boys pproblly want change unless Jack says to change because they only want to listen to him and only follow him because they think he is the Cheif and unless he says something they normally want do it even when Ralph tried to say something to them they didn't want to listen to him at all they said we only listen to Cheif.

Inherent Goodness

By using a mask, people hide who and what they really are. Most are something that behide they really are not. I think that mask does affect the idea of inherent goodness because not everyone that acts good really is good.

Mask----erade

Hiding behind a mask can allow a person to be who they wouldn't typically be. For Example, "Jack" was a perfect student and a perfect person around his parents,teachers, and adult piers. When "Jack is around his friend he changes. He does drugs, drinks alcohol, swears, and just is a hateful person. So he puts on a mask when he's in front of an adult and when he's with his friend. Masks do affect the idea of inherent goodness. For example, "Sarah's family are Jehovah Witnesses and they are typically a lot better behaved than regular kids are. So she's really inherently good. But when she goes around her friends are is in a private area she puts on a "mask" and acts completely oppisite then she would naturally act around her family and fellow witnesses.

peoples masks

In life there are two types of masks. There is a mask that people wear at halloween and then theres the type of mask that people wear everyday. People wear mask's to cover up there true selves to fit in with a certain group of people. People have many different types of masks. They wear them when they are with certain people. Another reason masks are wore everyday is because people are embarreced of their true selves and just want to be accepted. Masks do not affect a persons goodness. People change from good to bad throughout their lives many times.

Masks

Masks are used to hide behind. They cover the true view of a person. They can turn into something other than what they truely are. This can also keep them from coming to terms with reality. Which can be very bad in dealing with problems.

MASKS!!!

When people are hiding behind masks they are basically being someone else. Sometimes people do this because they want to be different or they can disguise them selves to trap people or just for fun. i wear in school the serious mask and partially i wear the crazy mask i have to have some fun during the day when i get home i wear the FAMILY mask where it means different sensations because in the house EVERYTHING goes on.
These masks are used because i need them for the occasion that I am in in the moment.the masks are used because they fit the MOMENT that i am in or just because i feel like wearing them. They always help me because i choose them wisely and i make sure that they are the appropriate masks if u choose the wrong mask it can lead to something that you don't want

Mask

I think the main reason why most people use a mask is because they're afraid of who they really are and what they want to be. A lot of people just want to be someone else and that's just an example of how people use a mask today. If you hide behinde a mask then you think that everything is okay and that you don't know who you want to be or if you can be your real self infront of someone. I think it doesn't becuase many people can be good and nice to your "mask" but in the long run we all have masks and don't know who to be in this world. People expect you to be something you're not and we try to please a lot of them by being fake.

Mask

I think one reason why people wear mask is because they are afraid of what people might think of them or what they want to do so they just wear a mask to cover it up. I also think people may act differently when they have a mask on because you may act one way around your friends but around your family you may act complety different. While you are hiding behind a mask you feel like you can get away with anything.

Do The Use Of Masks Affect The Idea of Inherent Goodness ?

I don't believe that the use of masks will affect the idea of inherent goodness . Masks don't change a person . If a person wants to change it's not going to be because of some mask . It won't be a physical change either . They'll probably change their attitude .

Though some people , mostly little kids , think they're somebody else because to them they feel different because of the mask . They sometimes will even act bad and then blame it on the mask .

False Identity (mask)

Being able to hide yourself is something everyone has wanted to do before. Acting 100% yourself without worrying about what other people think because they don't know who you are. Hiding behind a mask or false identity gives you the feeling that you can do anything. You would act completely different from how you usually do. The more wild and instinctive side would come out of you. The feeling of freedom envelopes you as your hiding your face.

This probably seems like fun but I think it could cause more pain than fun. If you didn't care about how you acted then you have an enormous temptation to do evil. If you were usually a goody goody then your dark side would be revealed. People that had once did harm to you would have payback brought on them. The human instinct is to satisfy your own (self centered) desires. That means the need/desire to get revenge on someone would probably be on the top of your list of things to do. Masking yourself would probably show if your truly evil or good.

Masks

Hiding behind a mask can help someone be something they normally wouldn't be. They can help do this because if you are hiding behind a mask you may not be showing your true feelings. So you aren't really being yourself, your being the person that the mask portrays. The use of masks can help support the fact that inherent goodness isn't real because if you hide behind a mask too long, you can begin to turn that way. Therefore, you aren't always good or always bad. The masks can change you and turn you bad if you are wearing a bad, or mean mask.

Mask Post

People hide behind masks, to hide what they truely are. Not literal masks, but like a wall, an invisable wall that goes up between them and actual reality. Normally they are either scared or embarrassed of what they are. And there is always the possibility that they are lazy, and don't FEEL like showing who they are. A mask doesn't show everyone who you really are, so the person that you act like under the mask can overtake your actual personality at some point. In otherwords, you act like something your not for a certain amount of time and eventually you could become that person.

Inherent Goodness.

I don't think use of masks will affect the idea of inherent goodness, because just having a mask doesn't make you a "different" person physically, you are still that person under the mask.

It might make someone feel different, but it's still the same person doing the actions. Besides, having a mask seem like they would be hiding rather than breaking free into the personality trait we "wished" had.

Wearing a mask can make you act like someone your not. You see it everyday in school when someone cusses or says something inappropriate you know they are probably not going to say that in front of their parents or guardian. Some people act totally bad with some people but are wusses with others. Masks allow you to be some one who you would normally not be.
Masks do affect the idea of inherent goodness because you can be born bad but act good even though your not. People can be born good and act good most of the time but some times they can put on a mask that is totally the opposite. That's why you never really know who's good and how's bad.

*Masks*

When somebody has a mask they can really change. I think this helps them change their personalities becuase since their true identidy is being hidden behind the mask, they can do a lot of things, but by having the mask on, they dont actually feel like its them doing the things. Sometimes these masks can bring out the good in people but other times they can bring out the evil in them. So I think that they can be both useful and harmful.

"Masks"

I think that a mask can affect the idea of inherent goodness because if someone bad comes to school and never gets in trouble and gets good grades then goes home and steals and breaks in places then they are hiding who they really are through a mask. I also think that if a person acts bad and bullies someone consistently then at home they are sweet and have to use manners they are hiding behind a mask because at one point when a child's parents are are always strict that child will reach there breaking point and act out repeatedly so that could be the reason that a child consistently bullies other children.

I think that Jack put on a good mask since he was a choir boy and was always nice because so far in our reading at first he was nice and then he started changing slowly but surely and then he starts showing more of his true self and coming out of his good boy mask.

Masks

I think that most people do have a mask that they hide behind on a regular basis. Most people act a certain way around certain people. Some people act mean around people that they do not like and other people they are really nice. I think that the people they are around determines how they act. I think that people hiding behind masks make them inherently good. For example, if people are around their parent they usually act good. But when they are around their friends they could be a completely bad person. Some people have the same personality with everyone but most people do not and use personal masks to cover up their personal flaws.

Masks. (:

To me, masks are made to hide behind. hiding behind a mask is just like hiding from your problems. you try to hide from them so you don't have to deal with them, or be effected by them, but when you don't deal with your own problems or troubles, someone else has to. so deal with your own stuff and stop being afraid to live life. You can still hide behind a mask, without having a mask. you can hide in literal, not just something hiding your face. when you hide behind a mask, you're basically just covering your eyes so you can't see what's there, but you know that it's still there. so there's no reason to hide in the first place, you're still stuck with it. isn't it better to just solve your problems, instead of just letting it sit there and stare you in the face until you do something about it? i think so.

Masks

Everyone, at some point, wears a "mask." Masks can help people to be something they are not. They can help them to be better a something or carefree. Masks help you to feel like you are some one totally different. In a sort of way, they can set you free from yourself. Some masks help you to be good, and some make you crazy, and not care, like Jacks mask made him. The use of a mask does not affect the idea of inherent goodness because no one is born good and stays good. Everyone changes throughout life, sometimes for the worse. A mask does not affect your "goodness." It some ways a mask can help you to be good. It can help you to be civil and disciplined. It might help you to act better and be happier.

Mask Perspective

Wearing a mask effects they way a person reacts upon situations. They feel hidden behind the mask as though they were someone else and always have been. Hiding behing the mask makes people feel almost invisible and they act upon their new identiy They way people act when wearing a mask varies on what kind of mask they're wearing.example a sad mask will make them feel sad, a happy mask happy, and a angry mask angry. The mask affects the idea of inherent goodness because when wearing the mask you feel as though you are someone else seeing through new eyes.

We Are Who We Are

I don't think that a person can be born good or bad. Because people make there on choices in life, I think that you have to make mistakes in life to learn from them or you want grow as a person. "The worst mistake a person can make is being afraid to make one". For example two African American boys grew up in the same neighborhood raised the same. They lived in the ghetto & know one ever thought that they would amount to anything. But one of the boys was a a honor roll student & went to college. I feel that if you put people down because of where they live or how much money they have telling the they aren't going to amount to anything, they start think I just might as well and give up.

Side Choose

Im going to have to go with side 2 because people get influenced to change. Everyone is born good but the way they are raised and the enviroment there rasied. Also by the people who theyare around because they get influenced to those things. Some people want to try things they know they shouldnt do. but it change to good or bad

Good vs. Evil

I think that being "good" or "evil" is something that is learned or developed over time. You might be in a bad situation as a child, but you can still make your life better. On the other hand, you can grow up in a good and caring family, but you can end up "evil." Experiences can also have major impact on people's views on life.

One of my best friends from my old school is a good example. As a child, she was a very kind person, would never hurt a fly. But as she grew older, she had a lot of emotional trauma. She now is one of those students that is either in detention, or suspended. Her parents are still trying to help as best they can.

Oprah grew up in a very bad situation. She bounced around homes, and was abused. But that did not stop her. She has now dedicated her life to help others. Her past did not keep her from doing all the good that she has accomplished.

My final example is J. J. Maloney. He was a convicted murder. While in prison, however, he saw the light and began to educate himself. When released from prison, he became a journalist who was nominated for five Pulitzer Prizes.

are people inherently good

people may be born into a good/evil situation but they are not always going to end up like the situation they were born into

someone could change by a traumatic experience/ if they saw there parents get killed they could turn into a "super hero" (Batman)

someone could change by a lifelong of hurt/ if they were put down all there life they could turn evil

someone could change by seeing someone else hurt/ if they were evil and someone close to them was hurt by there evil then they could change their ways

Inherent

I was recently asked my opinion about people that are born into good families/situations, and could those kids turn out to be bad and do bad things, or vice versa if a kid is born into a bad situation if that kid could turn out to be good and do good things. The way I feel is that if the kid wants to do good things and has the right amount of guidence they can do whatever they want to. They could turn out to be great people and go on to do great things.
There is a total opposite of this. If the kid decides his life and brain isn't important the kid will do terrible and destructful things. There are many great examples of this, where kids do good and bad.
Many rich Hollywood stars are born into mega rich families and have everything but decide to go out and party and get into trouble in many ways.
However many kids born into bad families decide to change their own life like many athletes, and go on and study and practice hard and go to college.
Even one of our presidents was born into a split home and obviously went on to be very smart and be our president.

Are People Inherently Good ?

I believe people are born good , but they do not stay good . Eventually they're going to get tired of being good and they're going to slowly turn evil or bad . Or they will just tired and not turn fully evil , but enough to where they're not the goody-goody person that everyone knows them to be .

One example is a girl that used to be my friend . We were best friends in elementary school and she was good . She wasn't perfect , but she wasn't bad . Then in middle school she changed and she wasn't good . Rumors started spreading and some of them turned out to be true and they weren't the good kind of rumors . Another example is probably me . Everyone , the people that grew up around me , says that I was good when I was little and now they're saying I'm not so good . I guess it's partly true . I wouldn't say I'm evil though . My third example is a friend now . As long as I've known her she's been good . She's mean, but she does everything that adults ask her and she doesn't break all the rules . So I believe everyone is good when they're first born , but when they began to get older they began to change .